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Singaporepatient
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HP Resistance

Post by Singaporepatient » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:32 pm

Hi. i was first diagnosed with H. Pylori in 2005 (after having it probably for about 4 yrs). I underwent a treatment in Sydney which was not reactive and then followed by 2 treatment protocols. The symptoms subsided for few years though i was still a carrier and then erupted when I moved to HK in 2010. After endoscopy procedure I had another round of treatment by a specialist in HK using Bismut protocol. H. Pylori still resistant. Fast forward to 2016. I don't have any issues or symptoms but seems to still be H. Pylori positive. I recently had a breath test which confirmed that. It's been frustrating but as I understand there is a 5-10% situations whereby the H. Pylori would wither be ultra resistant or would be hiding so well in the gastro that it is impossible to eradicate it. Few of the opinions i got through the years stated that if you have resistant H. Pylori, you can continue to live with it, without any issues or concerns of future development of stomach cancer. Others claim that I should do anything possible to eradicate it given the associated risk w cancer. I am not looking into natural remedy protocols. My questions are as follow: 1. is there a protocol for veteran HP carriers who failed in eradicating it? 2. what are the risks associated with living w the HP given my experience and failure in eradication. Many thanks
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sparkling2006
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Re: HP Resistance

Post by sparkling2006 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:27 am

Hi,
I was googling about HP eradication and antibiotics resistance and I came across your post in this forum. I am a singaporean living in Hong Kong as well and I was recently diagnosed with HP gastritis and went thru 2 rounds of the triple therapy in Sep and Oct which both failed to eradicate the bug despite my symptoms have subsided more than 95%. The doctor who is a Surgeon specialising in endoscopy procedures suggested to take the quadruple therapy this round but I am very concerned about taking such high doses of 3 antibiotics especially only one month after the first two rounds of therapy. In the end we agreed to try another round of triple therapy first. I got the prescriptions last week but am still hesitating to take the pills.

So how are you feeling now? Are u still seeing doctors to eradicate the bug ? or just live with it? I can understand how frustrating this can be as I am now stuck if I should Take the pills now or get a second medical advice first. Please share more of how things are going at your end. If needed please email me privately. sparkling2006@gmail.com. Thanks!

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Re: HP Resistance

Post by Helico_expert » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:48 am

sorry... I believe I had missed your post previously.

the short answers. gastric cancer is associated with genetics, diet, environment factors, and H. pylori. So if you dont have any family members that had gastric cancer, if you are eating healthily with fruits and vege and less salt, if you are generally healthy, doing your excercise, if you have no gastric symptoms from H. pylori, then your chance have getting gastric cancer is very low.

every factors above contribute a little bit to the chance of getting cancer. They are insignificant individually by themselves. But they all adds up.

In terms of treatment, you just need to find a very good specialist who has access to bacterial culture and antibiotic sensitivity testing. Then only the specialist can give the most effective treatment. Otherwise, it's just blindly testing different combination of treatment and hope that one will work.

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Re: HP Resistance

Post by adesola123 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:13 pm

So sorry for the pain and suffering you have to go through. I had HP some years ago and was really miserable when I was in so much pain and lost a lot of weight. The doctor prescribe some antibiotics but unfortunately this medication nearly took my life because I had an anaphylactic reaction and had to be admitted to flush me out. After that I was just done with the antibiotics so I looked into alternative remedy and I am glad I did. After doing the things below, I went back to the doctor and the nurse you did a retest was surprised that I do not have any bacteria in my stomach. She asked what I did and I told her exactly what I did. You said you are not looking for a natural remedy but the remedy may actually be better than the antibiotics you keep taking which can damage your organs after a prolonged use. Below are some things I did.

1.I used a) DGL and b) Mastic gum for supplements for about a month.
2. I stopped eating anything gluten and anything that does not contain any nutrients. I use almond milk instead of regular milk.
3. I juice mostly vegetables and stopped eating red meat. I was eating fish mainly salmon, beans, cultured foods, spirulina and chlorella. I really changed my diet and tried to make my body alkaline. No bread, white or wheat flour; i use almond flour. You can bake most of your food. Leave alone fried foods for now.
4. I take sprouted nuts too.

I pray this helps people who suffer from this terrible disease. Be positive and well.

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Re: HP Resistance

Post by sparkling2006 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:00 am

Many thaks for sharing ! So did you do the test a month after you had started all these natural remedies to eradicate the bug completely? wondering how long did it take to flush out the bug if not using antibiotics.

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