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cc910
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Natural and Pharmaceutical Approach

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This bug is effecting my quality of life to the most severe extent.

I also have just started the triple treatment with an extensive history of anti-biotics, I'm hoping that my body isn't resistant to the treatment. The doctor that I have gone to isn't very knowledgable or informative with what is going on. I have resorted to treating myself along with the triple treatment. I have two questions for you:
1. I read that taking probiotics during the triple treatment makes eradication 10-20% more likely. Do you have any evidence to back this up, what is your professional opinion on this?
2. I also have acid reflux and have been reading on how to cure this and H Pylori naturally. My question to you is, can I do both treatments simultaneously without one canceling the other out? I took a look a the pics from my endoscopy and my stomach inflammation is so severe that it makes me believe I have had this bug for a while now (years even) considering all the side effects that have been following me- constipation, bloating, fatigue, anxiety, bad breath, etc. A list of methods I have been approaching are as follows:
-one table spoon of baking soda with water
-one table spoon of Manuka honey
-one shot of Apple Cider Vinegar
-doing an oil pull with coconut oil
-Mastic Gum 500mg
-Betaine HCL 648mg
-DGL
-Monolaurin

As well as eating a lot of brocolli and drinking water with lemon. Do you have any other suggestions for what I should include in my diet?

Please help, thank you kindly.

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Re: Natural and Pharmaceutical Approach

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I was just explaining to some high school students the other day. I asked them what is the pH of the gastric juice? the answer is 1-2. Then I asked them since it is so acidic, why isnt the stomach self digesting? the answer is because of the mucous secreted by the gastric linings that separated the acid and the stomach wall. So where H. pylori lives? the answer is underneath the mucous, stick to the cell wall where they gets the nutrients. There will be some swimming around outside the mucous, and they survive by breaking down urea to make ammonia to neutralise the acid.

So, all the natural products like herbs, tea, honey, broccoli, garlic, chili, onion, etc etc may or will kill H. pylori outside the mucous. But there are many more hiding underneath the mucous and some even in the cell. All those natural products that did not dissolve into the mucous or blood stream or even into the cell, will most likely fail. That's why only antibiotics able to kill H. pylori effectively until now.

Does probiotics increase treatment? probiotic is a very general term. It's like antibiotics. Funny thing is, H. pylori is naturally resistant to some antibiotics. eg. Vancomycin. So it's not right to say all antibiotics kill H. pylori. And so, it's not right to say all Probiotics helps treatment. Maybe some probiotics does. But it's very subjective I think. My opinion is, there is no harm trying. But it'll be "interesting" to find antibiotic resistant probiotics. what I meant is, I believe all the probiotics will be killed by the triple therapy anyway. Nevertheless, some people claims that it helps. So I have no objection in trying. Taking probiotics together with triple therapy will not reduce the antibiotics efficacy.

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