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Burping and Stomach Gurgle empty belly

The various unpleasant manifestations of Helicobacter can be described here. Remember however that the great majority of persons with Hp have no symptoms that they are aware of and consider themselves normal.

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matt290479
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Burping and Stomach Gurgle empty belly

Post by matt290479 »

Been 10 Months months since I eradicated H Pylori from my stomach. Had 7 day treatment, month later all negative. But I don't care what anyone says, no one I know who has eradicated the bug has come off better. Since its gone I have had heartburn on and off, a burning top stomach, burps after food and when my stomach is empty. When I wake up I feel as hungry as hell, sleep only 6 hours a night and cant enjoy any of the food I loved. What annoys me is that doctors give you the toxic triple therapy and give you NO feedback or advise on what to do next? doctors are clueless.. I have cured myself more by doing my own research than asking a quack, they are glorified google search engines, pathetic!!! Not sure if I have been left with Chronic Gastritis or a Small Ulcer... But after the triple therapy i was rock bottom, I have brought myself up to 80% better, but still stuck with some minor heartburn, well I think it could be?? more like gassy feeling burps and having to maneuver myself to force a burp..

PPIs should be avoided at all costs, they only make you worse, low acid gives a chance for other bugs to manifest and without acid you dont soak up minerals from the food you eat...

My next step now is Bone Broth, Gelatin, Slippery Elm and Marshmallow, Plenty of water during the day but not before meals or it will dilute your stomach. Will also give Cabbage juice a go or the glutamine and vitamin U.. And be positive as negativity will NEVER make you feel better, no matter what you do.

I have come a long way and have healed myself a lot with what I have done, any questions feel free to ask.

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Post by Helico_expert »

I agree that one must stay positive.

Disagree that you should avoid PPI as this is a very subjective matter. Sometimes the reflux or heart burn is so bad, it may damage the esophagus or corrode the teeth.

Nevertheless, I think this is a good discussion topic. How do you deal with burping after antibiotic treatment? What have you tried that improve or made it worse? and how long does it take to be back to normal?

matt290479
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Re: Burping and Stomach Gurgle empty belly

Post by matt290479 »

Hi H/Expert.. I know where you coming from, and I kind of take back what i said about the PPIs, they have some use for certain people. Even last night I was tempted to go back onto them due to the indigestion.

Here we go.. I for one, like many are my own worst enemy! We get a bit better and we try to eat the same old foods of old, we are NOT cured it just means we are improving the damage. We should not revert back to a normal hard diet of take aways, fast food and hard to digest foods. I am nearly 100% sure I could cure anyone of the aftereffects but they must stay on the diet. Limit meats, if you do make sure they are chopped fine and only eat chicken in early stages, red meat out!!! Eat salmon oily fish high omegas, limit or remove fats in the first month, don't eat anything sharp e.g crisps, biscuits.. No pastas, no gluten.. I would even avoid all dairy in the first month of recovery.

Wake up, eat salads with some with some coconut oil, drink plenty of water between meals but nothing an hour before food or our acid gets diluted. I never burb when i eat fresh salad, lettuce, rocket, spinach, kale .. I wouldn't make a smoothie as you need your saliva working which helps digestion and then gets your body back into a routine. I would repeat this again lunch time, no citrus fruit and even bananas gave/give me heartburn. High strength probiotic, but this does not help repair only helps repopulate, but as your stomach is still damage its wasted in the first month, even second. My diet would consist of this for the first month, but you have to introduce things VERY slowly, i went all mad and started eating what i wanted, got away with it for a while and it all came back! So I seem to always have to start again.. Small meals regular and DO NOT, DO NOT overeat, even if you have to throw the food!!!!! Keep to that rule and in a few months you should be getting close to 100% very quickly.

Supplements are useless, food is the key to health and going foward, ive spent LOADS £1000s and nothing works as most of it is crap.. What we should do is get a hair analysis when we are feeling a but better (after starting on the easy diet i spoke about) as we are most likely to be low on everything after the h pylori therapy, then you can find out if your low on certain minerals which you will be.. Its VITAL everyone even healthy people take Magnesium as e are ALL low, we dont eat earthy foods anymore, we are eating too CLEAN and all pesticides crap, our diet does not consist of it!! Its IMPERATIVE we take epsom salts in our baths at least 3 times a week to replenish levels of magnesium plus its very alkaline to our bodies, everyone should look this up. Glutamine is great too, but I am going to start making cabbage jucies with carrots, the evidence is too strong not to try this going forward, has abundance of natural Glutamine and vitamin u to heal heal our stomach lining. Bone Broth is CRUCIAL and gelatin in drinks, this will help restore mucus lining. DONT be fulled by promises on suppliemnt bottles/adverts that you will get better you wont, its a con! FOOD is the way to cure you, fresh veg and fruit but dont eat fruit with veg I guess you all know about the gases it may produce especially in our damaged stomachs. I could go on and on...

Finally, you must stay positive, EXERCISE and socialise! You have to tray and forget you have stomach issues, your mind is the most powerful tool you have and if you are negative no matter what you will never get better.. Dont feel sorry for yourself as no one will care about the person who is always moaning, been there done that, take your health into your own hands and win the battle.. Do all of this i 100% guarantee you will get better!

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Re: Burping and Stomach Gurgle empty belly

Post by Aastha_B »

I was diagnosed with H Pylori through Igg and IgA blood tests in March 2014. I was given the amoxcyllin and clarithomycim treatment along with an anti-acid and pro-biotics. I was cured after this 2 week treatment. However, (I guess due to lack of focus on keeping my diet clean), I was diagnosed again on Feb 2015 through a endoscopy followed by the same blood tests. My doctor has prescribed me with the same course again this year?

I am worried it might not be working fully because I am still burping constantly and am on my last day of the 10 day treatment. Please advise if the consuming the same medicines was advisable? Also how do I control these burps once they start? Its one of the most embarrassing and depressing things to happen to you!

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Re: Burping and Stomach Gurgle empty belly

Post by Helico_expert »

in general, it's not advisable to take the same antibiotic again. Unless, your doctor has evidence to show that you had been cleared last treatment.

In addition, you should not use blood test again. Because of your clever memory immune cells, your blood may be positive for years.

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Re: Burping and Stomach Gurgle empty belly

Post by Aastha_B »

Thanks helico! Yes my doctor did have evidence that this treatment had worked on me in the past since the blood tests had come negative after the initial treatment.
I have just finished the same treatment, one year later, today. However, this time, toward the last 2 days (on clarithomycin), my burping has resurfaced. Does this mean the meds have not worked? Is there anyway, to stop this constant bleching? Thanks once again.

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Re: Burping and Stomach Gurgle empty belly

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Honestly, it's not possible to tell if the antibiotics work. You'll have to finish the treatment, then wait for a month and get a breath/stool test. Blood test is not the right method to confirm the eradication.
blood tests are not good for determining eradication since it takes many months for the antibodies to H. pylori to decrease.
reference from http://www.medicinenet.com/helicobacter ... /page6.htm

msreza16
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Re: Burping and Stomach Gurgle empty belly

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"in general, it's not advisable to take the same antibiotic again. Unless, your doctor has evidence to show that you had been cleared last treatment."

My first course of treatment was Nexium HP7 which consists of both Clarithromycin and Amoxicillin. Treatment failed.

Then I was treated with quadruple therapy which contains Rifabutin+Clarythromycin+Doxycillin. Treatment failed.

Currently being treated with salvage therapy which contain Levofloxacin+Amoxicillin.

Basically, the last two treatment contains what I had in the first treatment which failed!

How likely it is that the salvage therapy will work? Losing hope.

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Post by Helico_expert »

It is understandable that the treatment is long and awful. However, losing hope is the worse outcome. You are not allow to lost a battle like that. You have been treated blindly 3 times which is the reason your bug is not treated. However, I can understand why. It is because precision medicine for H. pylori is not cost effective in Australia. In Australia, the triple therapy has a cure rate of 80% and among the 20% that failed, the quadruple therapy has a cure rate of 90%. So in most cases, there is no need for bacterial culture. In addition, not many laboratories are equipped to culture H. pylori strains.

anyway, we shall wait and see your current treatment. be optimistic.
:)

msreza16
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Re: Burping and Stomach Gurgle empty belly

Post by msreza16 »

Thank you very much for your positive support - really appreciate it.

One more question - will my intestinal metaplasia reverse if I'm cured of h.pylori? Or do I need seperate treatment for it?

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