H pylori, moderate gastritis

The various unpleasant manifestations of Helicobacter can be described here. Remember however that the great majority of persons with Hp have no symptoms that they are aware of and consider themselves normal.

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by newena » Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:12 am

Yes, by endoscopy the amount of bile is measured in the stomach and esophagus (none or some). I'm not the specialist, but this is what I found out from the doctors.

My husband has the problem with bile reflux after gallbladder removal. We tried to get any possible help on it. Frankly, my conclusion is that doctors don't really know how to treat it successfully, I see people struggling to find the solution. Alopathic medicine has some medicines which are sometimes successful, doctors also suggest operation to move the duct from the stomach (normally it goes into small intestine, joint point close to stomach). As far as I could notice better results come from natural and alternative medicine (I would suggest homeopathy, my husband is at the moment receiving the treatment and it helps). I also found some natural remedies yet to try as he still has nausea, I found Rhodiolin to help and remedy called triphala, also we want to try red wine which is put to boil and then you add the same quantinty of cold water, drinking it warm in small sips. This we want to try, don't know how it will be effective as every organism is different.

Good luck!

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by Helico_expert » Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:04 pm

I dont really believe in alternative medicine, at least for now. Nothing has really shown effective in vivo. alternative medicine may help the to relieve the symptom, but unlikely to remove the root of the problem. antibiotic is the only way to eradicate the bacteria. perhaps can try alternative medicine after antibiotic treatment.

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by cmosley2 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:09 pm

I know this is old... Any updates?? I'm on my last day of eradication for h pylori. Researching all over the web. Mine was pretty severe, was DX with reactive hypoglycemia and h pylori a few weeks later. H pylori possibly causes reactive hypoglycemia. Upper endo DX the gastritis & biopsy confirmed h pylori. Been sick for 3 years... As of today still burping constantly, which is usually started by arrhythmia. I think it's all related as I've had complete cardiac work up.

Does it get better? What blood work should I do after eradication? (Not to confirm its gone, I have appt in 4 weeks for stool exam) but I mean... Vitamin/mineral levels? Chromium/magnesium.. Etc. I read they can be affected by infection.

I've cut the acidic food, dairy. I limit sugar daily due to sugar regulation issues. Any other advice?

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by Helico_expert » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:28 am

a small group of people does develop "burping" after the treatment. unfortunately the only you can do is to continue PPI to protect your esophagus and teeth corrosion.

in regards to vitamins before and after treatment, i think that is a very interesting topic that nobody has investigated.

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by NeedHelp454 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:33 am

How is everyone doing? Any updates to those who have been trying to heal the stomach? Thanks.

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by alecvolk » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:39 am

sms08h wrote:Thank you both barjammer and helico_expert. You guys have been so informative and answered all my questions, which sadly is something I cannot repeat about all of my physicians.
Would love for you to give some feedback on how you're feeling. I'm feeling the exact same as you did after my H. Pylori treatment. It's been nothing short of excruciating.

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by Lenochka » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:17 am

I would advice to check h pylori one more time. I am in the same position as you. Waiting the result of endoscopy after treatment finished 6 months but I have the same simptoms. Please update.

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by ihatehelico » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:21 pm

sms08h wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:26 am
Thank you both barjammer and helico_expert. You guys have been so informative and answered all my questions, which sadly is something I cannot repeat about all of my physicians.
Did you ever get better?

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by ihatehelico » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:54 pm

barjammar wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:34 am
Hi, let me clarify for you (search my other recent posts as these are common questions):
The gastritis may never totally heal but remains in a "mild chronic" form. This is usually asymptomatic.
Taking all patients, in double blind trials, 7% are TOTALLY CURED and about 30% are substantially better. So-called NNT (number needed to treat) is estimated conservatively at 17 I recall. However patients in clinical trials of Hp are probably the tough cases (?like you) and normal General Practice patients are substantially better in 50% of cases (personal experience). The other 50% probably had something else going on (and the Hp was asymptomatic) or the Hp has caused some permanent damage.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS that further deterioration is unlikely once Hp has been cured. Also, in my experience, patients do gradually improve and stabilise so that clinical treatment failures are managing OK when interviewed 1, 2, 3 years later. In these circumstances just treat the symptoms. I doubt that diet makes much difference but I often suggest a LOW RESIDUE DIET if that has not been tried before. Also, have investigations for any persistent symptoms. Have an endoscopy after being off the acid blockers for at least 1 week so that the doctor can look at the stomach in its natural state. Also, consider measuring the gastric juice pH to make sure that acid is present (pH should be <2.0) and take a few random biopsies. Sometimes non-helicobacter gastritis (automimmune) can be picked up (but there is no treatment for it).
8-)
Only half are cured?? So there's a chance I may feel nauseous for the rest of my life? That is too awful to contemplate. I thought most people recovered from this situation. I've never met anyone in my life who had permanent gastritis and just felt ill for years and years. I realise that's not to say they don't exist but still. What a terrible illness this is. :cry:

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Re: H pylori, moderate gastritis

Post by Helico_expert » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:30 am

I believe Prof Marshall definition of "cure" is completely back to normal.

The "recovery" that you meant is probably back to asymptomatic.

Most people does go back to asymptomatic phase and for some, because the appetite becomes better, they gain weight.

However, the "recovery" differ from people to people. Hopefully it wont take you too long to recover. In most cases, the more you think about it, the slower it heals. Most important thing is to make sure there is no H. pylori, then you know the only outcome is better.

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